Nov 21, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Right behind you.
Guild: HeRo
Profession: W/Rt
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27.5 monk possible?
I havent farmed with a 55 monk for ages, but I was thinking about this. What if you took a standard 55 monk (not UW farming) and farmed areas with no enchantment removal and threw in this:
Aura of the Lich {Elite} - Enchantment Spell
For 15-39 seconds, your maximum health is halved, but you take half damage from all sources. When Aura of the Lich ends, you're healed for 50-202 health.
So, health drops from 55 down to roughly 27 or 28. Taking half damage from all sources I think would apply after Protective Spirit is cast on you.
Has anyone tried before? I'm gonna test it out when I get home.
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Nov 21, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Guild: [Cape]
Profession: E/
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Its been tried/theorised a ton of times, but its an elite, plus SoA/SH allow you to take on infinite enemies.
Sorry to leave it dead.
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Nov 21, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: N/
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ummm kinda unnecisary and elite is a high cost if you are going solo otherwise i would say spellbreaker 55's can already have constant +12 and full damage reduction
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Nov 21, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08
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Emo Goth Italics
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it DOES sound fun and different though,plus SoA is NF only
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Nov 21, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Right behind you.
Guild: HeRo
Profession: W/Rt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xue Fang
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Nice find.
If figures. When I have an original idea its already been thought of. I'm just slow on the draw!
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Nov 21, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
Guild: Penguin Village
Profession: Mo/
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AotL requires points in Death Magic. You are going to be slower at killing because of lower attributes and lack of an elite/secondary profession choice.
As for enchantment order, you would have to use AotL after PS in order for it to have the desired effect.
If used before PS, the initial damage would be halved, then cut into 10%hp chunks by PS, therefore causing no visible change in damage recieved, unless the damage was lower than 10%hp to begin with.
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Nov 21, 2007, 08:38 PM // 20:38
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#9
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Desert Nomad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
If used before PS, the initial damage would be halved, then cut into 10%hp chunks by PS, therefore causing no visible change in damage recieved, unless the damage was lower than 10%hp to begin with.
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still, since you only got 27 hp.
So before PS = 2 hp damage, after 1 hp
Both are better then 55 hp.
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Nov 21, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08
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#10
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: Teutonic Monks [Holy]
Profession: R/
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Just bring SH/SoA 0 damage ftw.
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Nov 21, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
Nice find.
If figures. When I have an original idea its already been thought of. I'm just slow on the draw!
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Probably because you already saw it without realising :P
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Nov 21, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Communistwealth of Virginia
Guild: Uninstalled
Profession: W/Mo
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Your Elite should be for damage. Spiteful or Spoil Victor would be much better at killing, especially considering scatter. I can't imagine this doing any fast killing.
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Nov 22, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indian Township, ME
Guild: Nativ War Party (NWP)
Profession: Rt/Mo
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It really don't make much difference what health you have using Prot Spirit, either way it is going to take 10 hits to kill you. And the lower your health, the more vulnerable you are to Degen and Lightstealing... Not to mention you would have replaced your Elite skill that does all the killing. The only thing that would be good is handling degen with HB, since you will only be taking 2 dmg... but since Mystic Regen, HB would be no use in a Mo/D build.
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Nov 22, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BrisneyLand
Guild: Sphincter Says [What]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Your Elite should be for damage. Spiteful or Spoil Victor would be much better at killing, especially considering scatter. I can't imagine this doing any fast killing.
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Exactly...why would you sacrifice better damage via SoJ, SS or SV for a slower run due to scatter, and greater vulnerability to lifestealing / degen? Still...sounds like fun for something different
Last edited by Antithesis; Nov 22, 2007 at 01:16 AM // 01:16..
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Nov 22, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: D/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReZDoGG
It really don't make much difference what health you have using Prot Spirit, either way it is going to take 10 hits to kill you. And the lower your health, the more vulnerable you are to Degen and Lightstealing... Not to mention you would have replaced your Elite skill that does all the killing. The only thing that would be good is handling degen with HB, since you will only be taking 2 dmg... but since Mystic Regen, HB would be no use in a Mo/D build.
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have you even heard of a 55?
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Nov 22, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Profession: E/
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After entering a zone, die, and take off the -50 cesta. your HP drops to about that. Lots of fun, when farming undead and other baddies. especially undead since you can have that Dervish hp regen, and you cant die. (unless there is a enchantment strip somewhere. But that kills 55s anyway.)
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Nov 22, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyla salanari
it DOES sound fun and different though,plus SoA is NF only
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Yeah, but SoA can be unlocked for ~500g in Kamadan if you already unlocked it. With AotL you waste elite and you have to:
a) capture that elite in end-game area of Prophecies.
b) use elite tome, which isn't very cheap.
SoA/SH is much better option. Or just normal 55.
V Use Shielding Hands.
Last edited by Abedeus; Nov 22, 2007 at 10:57 AM // 10:57..
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Nov 22, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30
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#18
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Kokkola, Finland
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Yeah, but SoA can be unlocked for ~500g in Kamadan if you already unlocked it. With AotL you waste elite and you have to:
a) capture that elite in end-game area of Prophecies.
b) use elite tome, which isn't very cheap.
SoA/SH is much better option. Or just normal 55.
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If you don't have NF.
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Nov 22, 2007, 05:36 PM // 17:36
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#19
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Castleford, England
Guild: None
Profession: E/
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I agree with just making a normal 55 with SV/SS and sacrificing once, and then switching out to a -20hp focus to give you 13hp :P
Works like a treat! Don't even need HB/Mystic Regen. Mending is enough :P
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Nov 23, 2007, 04:44 AM // 04:44
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#20
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: TW
Profession: W/
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How exactly are you planning on killing anything without your elite slot?
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